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Walk with me my little child
To the forest of denial
Speak with me my only mind
Walk with me until the time
And make the forest turn to wine
You take the legend for a fall
You saw the product
Why cant you see that you are my child
Why...

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    anonymous
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    Aug 1st, 2008 8:30am report


    The lyrics are meant to have multiple meanings to different people. But in all, after years of research, the lyrics in this song seem to tell the story of the planet. How she gave birth to a wonderful species (Humans) who were undoubtably going to become her "seeds". We would eventually grow in technological advancements, and pollinate perhaps some uninhabited planets, as to spread her seeds.

    Then the song tells of our seperation from nature into this material world we all live in. Our lives have become driven by a foundation of material items (money, cars, mortgages for houses, etc) and most herbal and natural remedies for thousands of illnesses are widely ignored by the rich, and therefore the poor.

    I notice several attempts to describe humanities advancements, (eg: ... Walk with me for a time, and make the forest turn to wine... ... Walk with me until the end, and make the forest turn to sand...) I believe the latter is directed at how we destroy the forests in pursuit of money.

    Now the rest of the song seems to be from the earth's perspective, as it seems to be pleading with humanity to embrace the real truth, and that truth is we ARE her seeds. We share the same fractal organization of nature that the earth does, and we have evolved to best suit ourselves in nature. But nature has also evolved to adapt to us. Now if we were to embrace a new world religion of how shall we say, Earthism (come call them hippies), then other religions will be wiped out, so there will not be anymore "circumcisions on the chair" and Television will be exposed as the brainwashing tube it has always been, and possibly people will wake up to the actuall effects of radio and microwaves bombarding us unnaturally, so there will be "no televisions in the air,"

    Then it goes on to say "You made the weapons for us all, just look at us now!" As in we made the weapons, and now everyone wants them, and their willing to kill for them. The world is teetering on the brink of a world war. Foreign tensions are rising. And innocent people are dying as a result.

    "Why can't you see that you are my child
    Why don't you know that you are my mind
    Tell everyone in the world, that Im you
    Take this promise to the end of you"

    This seems to be the author trying to further plead to the people on the planets behalf. Because if you think of the Earth as a giant living super-organism (which it is, if you think about it), it makes perfect sense with this song. So basically mother earth wants you to spread the word to all the people, and return to living in natural time, and to quit destroying our own biosphere, because the earth doesn't want to lose her seeds. Over-population is best solved by spreading out, branching off, leaving Earth and living elsewhere.

    It is a fact that we cannot destroy this planet. We can only destroy our own biosphere, and make ourselves sick and cause our own deaths. Even a nuclear holocaust couldnt kill his planet, because in maybe 1000 years, or 50,000 years, maybe even a million years, which is a short time in the lifespan of our planet, it will return to the pristine conditions of untouched nature once again.

    Thank you.
    - Rob



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    Smithereenz
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    Nov 29th, 2007 11:04am report


    Ah, Forest.

    I was very high when I came to this conclusion. That may be why I am very correct or why I am very incorrect. I don't know, we'll see.

    The "Forest" - The Biblical Garden of Gethsemane

    According to The New Testament, minutes before Judas led the authorites to Jesus Christ and horribly betrayed him, Christ was praying at the Garden of Gethsemane (garden literally meaning "forest" in today's interpretation). He was there with his other apostles. They were supposed to be praying, but were sleeping instead, which angered Jesus. He woke them up and told them to pray. Jesus went off on his own. He knew what was to come of him - the betrayal, the ridicule, the pain, the crucification, the resurrection...yet, He was still scared shitless. He asks his father (GOD), "why me?" Jesus questions GOD and has his doubts. Jesus is even visited by Satan at this point.

    One view of mine - I believe this song is GOD talking to Jesus Christ. This is GOD's view in the Garden (FOREST). GOD is angry at Jesus for His questioning and for His doubts. How dare you question GOD, especially after I have made it clear to you of your destiny. THUS, explaining these lyrics:

    "Why can't you see that you are MY CHILD?
    Why don't you know that you are MY MIND?
    Tell everyone in the world, that I'M YOU?
    TAKE THIS PROMISE to the END OF YOU"

    "Walk with me my little CHILD
    To the FOREST of DENIAL
    Speak with me my only mind
    Walk with me until the time
    And make the forest turn to wine
    You take the legend for a fall
    You saw the product..."

    My other interpretation - a George Orwell, "1984" type of thing.

    We all know the book by George Orwell, "1984" explaining how the future may turn out if things continue the way they are going. The whole, do and speak as your told; Big Brother is watching you...yeah...



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    anonymous
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    Dec 12th, 2007 12:43am report


    "Why can’t you see that you are my child" (Humans created God, and not vice versa, that's why "YOU ARE MY CHILD")

    "Why don’t you know that you are my mind" (God is just an idea, he's just in our minds)

    "Tell everyone in the world, that I’m you" (God isn't the one who makes things happend -catastrophes, murders, new lives, etc.-, but humanity is responsible for the way things are.)



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    anonymous
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    Jul 17th, 2013 7:34pm report


    Whenever I listen to forest, I think of how Moses brought the Israelites out of Egypt in the Old Testament. "Walk with me my little child" - refers to the Children of Israel. "To the forest of denial" - the children of Israel lost faith in God, and so God punished them by forcing them to wander through the wilderness (most likely a desert, but a forest is a type of wilderness) for forty years. "Why can't you see that you are my child?" Why can't the Israelites see that God is their one and only Father? "Walk with me until the time, make the forest turn to wine" - Keep with me until our journey is over, when we reach the land of milk and honey (the wilderness turning to wine). This is just what I get out of the song, what does everyone else think?



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    anonymous
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    Jan 10th, 2013 1:33pm report


    its about aids

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    anonymous
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    Nov 11th, 2012 11:06pm report


    Its Satan talking to man, saying you are my child, you are of my mind, your inheritantly evil, youve seen the forest, the forest of Denial (eden) where Satan believes that man and Satan are denied what is rightfully belonging to mankind. now come inside. ( to where he thinks we should be). Turn the forest to sand, Let Eden die, let Gods creation die. tell everyone in the world, that I'm you
    take this promise to the end of you. Satan knows that if we take his promise it is the end of you. The legend was what hes saying God told them not to eat of the fruit of knowledge..hes sayings its not true..its just a legend but then says we took the legend and therefore caused the fall.



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    Zobrie
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    Mar 19th, 2012 3:42pm report


    '' "Why can't you see that you are my child" (Humans created God, and not vice versa, that's why "YOU ARE MY CHILD")

    "Why don't you know that you are my mind" (God is just an idea, he's just in our minds)

    "Tell everyone in the world, that I'm you" (God isn't the one who makes things happened -catastrophes, murders, new lives, etc.-, but humanity is responsible for the way things are.) ''
    This citation (from anonymous, 3rd top comment) seems to describe it all.
    But when it comes to turn the forest to wine and to sand, it's turning forest into woods materials who are often not usefull.
    To sand means to bring it to the ground.
    To wine means to transform everything into wine to sell it for money.



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    anonymous
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    Nov 13th, 2011 11:41pm report


    From all of the religious imagery i would say that the song is about religion. My guess is that the song says that religion is the child of ignorance. or something along those lines.



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    anonymous
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    Oct 14th, 2011 10:29pm report


    I love this song. My interpretation is that is talks about Taliban and how they train their soldiers in the 'Forest' where there is denial and you where you have to speak 'their' only mind...and if you really think about it, the rest of the words fall in place....



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    anonymous
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    Jul 6th, 2011 7:23am report


    I think a spiritual interpretation seems probable bearing in mind the religious symbolism, but tht's not to claim that SOAD are advocating any particular religion. If 'god'(as a generic spiritual entity) is in each of us, then these words may be seen as an inner conflict between the different sides of the self: the spiriutual and the more 'immediate' every day self. For me this is a song about inner conflict, free-will, and the opportunity to set things right.



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    anonymous
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    Jul 19th, 2010 7:41pm report


    I think this song has a lot of meanings and I find all theories interesting. Guess the only one who knows the true meaning of this is the person who wrote the lyrics. They might have a specific image in mind, but perhaps they didn't convey it as well. I do not know much about the bible so sadly, I can only take the lines of the song and create my own image from it. But it is fun to create a whole new meaning. Thank you so much for sharing your interpretations.

    -Sae200502167



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    Tweak281
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    Mar 30th, 2010 3:53pm report


    I'd have to agree with most of these people. I think Forest is based on God, telling Jesus, to go to earth, and "tell everyone in the world" that he's God, spreading the word of Christianity, (Armenians are Christian.) to all the people in the world, and "take this promise, to the end of you." is being crucified for us, thus spreading Christianity, even further. I myself, am Christian, and I love this band. :)

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    anonymous
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    Mar 6th, 2010 3:36pm report


    Idk but I think This is based on the first book in the bible, Genesis. The line, "Walk with me my little child into the forest of denial" is symbolizing Adam and Eve. In Genesis, God tells them to eat from any tree except for one tree that is possessed by Satan. One day they disobey god and eat from the cursed tree and God gets angry because they disobeyed him.



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    Prototype2010
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    Feb 28th, 2010 2:26pm report


    Most of the people here are completely wrong. Get one thing straight: SYSTEM OF A DOWN, INCLUDING SERJ, IS NOT CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM/JEWISH/PROTESTANT, WHATEVER. Serj believes in old Native American religions, not modern religions. The other members I am unsure, but they are not of a modern religion. So therefore, the lyrics do not come from "God's" perspective, "Jesus's" perspective, and/or "Satan's" perspective. The interpretations I've seen that could be correct are:

    1) Serj's challenging/mocking of God and Jesus
    2) Mother Earth speaking

    The other thing, I know they have some songs that are about the Armenian genocide, but stop dwelling on the subject. This song has nothing to do between the relationship of Turkey and Armenia. Everyone needs to start researching the band's actual views and opinions before coming to some wacky conclusion. I'm not insulting anyone, or challenging anyone, I'm honestly giving you some advice. They aren't Catholic, so obviously the lyrics aren't supporting the Catholic views.



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    anonymous
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    Dec 14th, 2009 12:54pm report


    I think it is definitely God speaking. However, I think he is speaking to the believers, maybe (i might be wrong) to the Jews, supporting that is that they believe they are god's holy people.

    Now, tell everyone in the world you mine, is simple, preach the word to all who will listen. Make the forest (where i could be wrong with saying the Jews) turn to wine, is saying: don't think you don't need me.

    You forged the weapons, is simple as well, you started war; look at you now.

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    anonymous
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    Jun 4th, 2009 6:29pm report


    you guys are all off....obviously no american or western influenced mentality will understand.


    they're political, and they're anti conformist (New World Order aka Israel USA UK).


    you (america) make the weapons for us (middle easterns and others) all, just look at us now!

    why cant you see that you are my child?---you come from us. our lands are holy lands, lands that my ancestors (YOUR ANCESTORS) lived on. its where the ancient civilization was spawned. as a persian american, i believe this is EXACTLY what they are speaking of. of coarse non of your mindsets would fathom such truth.


    keep listening to your parents and your television, they teach you what you know!



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    anonymous
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    May 20th, 2009 5:50pm report


    This can not be God speaking... really, we approach God not God us.
    OH i dont want to scare anybody but the first impression that i got was this:
    It might be the devil speaking, being angry yet paying compliments to the human. This tremendous fury and these ways are of the devil.
    "Just look at us now" this is vanity man and "why can't you see that you are my child" it is him complaining and at the same time implies his failure combined with fury is perfect.
    Yet the devil seduces progressively.
    1. turn the forest into wine (appears as an angel of light)
    2. turn the forest into sand (true form)
    3. continues tempting yet we can not know if human accepted him. As perfect as can be.

    Well think about it. Dont judge me:)

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    anonymous
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    May 6th, 2009 5:48pm report


    I think this song is writen from a victims standpoint living in 3rd world nation, i think "forest of denile" symbolises an obviouse problem all people can see but several nations gov. denies it. I think "You took the legend for its fall" meaning you took the terror you were looking for out of power. "You saw the product, why cant you see that your my child" meaning the "heroic" country that took the terroring legend for a fall, and now that they see the product of it all, they take the product of another and build their walls. The reason he states "your my child" maybe hes hinting that without oil or any imported product the country would not be able to exist. therefore making the smaller less powerfull 3rd world countries "mother or Host countries". when money and power is left unattended when a dictator is gone its left to the radicals, and After many countries invade and war is faught, they evade their weapons leaving them behind. "you left the weapons for us all" I think the singer in this perspective wants to kno why the country he lives in is still being terrorized for its product after the battle has been faught. why not reform and do it the right way, instead of being a parasite to a host country.

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